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JOEL OSTEEN - A COOL RAP

MORE THAN SCRIPTURE, an ALCHEMIST

Joel Osteen – The media darling has a net worth of $40 million, and has one of the largest churches in the country, despite having almost no actual religious training. He inherited his church from his father, and took it up a notch when he moved the church to an old stadium that the city was abandoning.

One of the few “ tele-moniests" I can stand. For about five minutes. This guy is so good at what he does others who are not so motivational, the gloomer’s, doomers and blasphemer’s are jealous and can’t stand him. 

Because instead of the hell, fire and brimstone, the fear and devil mongering, and the constant harassment to send in money, he preaches positive thinking, feeling good about yourself, your family and then, only then does he tell you to send in the money. 

Almost 90 million dollars last year and an estimated 30,000 parishoners and supporters in his congregation.  If talk is cheap this guy is an Alchemist and has turned lead into gold.  With a smile like that and Samson like hair you need that kind of funding for your dentist and hairdresser.

This is alchemy at it’s highest level but with digging and investigating, there are few complaints against what he does except from the competition, the old school, the gnarly thinking fear mongers of hell fire and brimstone and "Jesus is the only way", anything else is blasphemy.  

(Mostly jealousy since a lot of the fire and brimstone preachers using fear tactics, don’t attract smart people with lies and bullsh*t)

Barbara Walters, mentions him as one of the “10 Most Fascinating People of 2006".  So far he has not been involved in  sex, drug, or molestation, cheating, robbing, or stealing, normal scandals like the other "Do as I say and don't do as I do" like others mentioned here. 

Robert Schuller, recently dismissed as the head of the church he founded also believed in the power of positive thinking.  We call it Positive Motivational Christianity.  Another slightly heavier gospelite is Joyce Meyer.

I call it Christian Conversational Fund Raising for Personal Profit.

Joel Osteen's motto, theme, mantra is "Discover the Champion in You."  He is the son of Pentecostal Preacher the late John Osteen.  39-year-old Olsteen had he gone on the motivational speaking tour might give Tony Robbins a run for his money but when you are taking in 90 million dollars a year you don’t look for another job.  

Tony didn’t make that kind of change.  In fact at his last biggie, Tony did the old faith walking through fire stunt with the jerks who paid him for knowledge and people got burnt, hospital type plus the money they paid.  You don’t need to find GOD for scams and bullsh*t.

Good looks and a drop dead gorgeous wife adds to the charisma with couple has with smiles and a positive message compared to some of these charlatans like Murdock, Robertson, Oral Roberts  (Dead), Popoff (Should be dead) and a few other jerk-offs.

 

HIS WIFE DOES HAVE A TEMPER
His wife is stunningly beautiful and right by his side. She can talk too. No jezebel hookers on this beat. Other than a flight attendant she didn't get along with, a small gift to the FAA and getting off the plane she is fairly clean in the ring of fire preachers bed warmers.  

The Federal Aviation Administration has fined Victoria Osteen, wife of Lakewood pastor Joel Osteen, $3,000 after determining she had interfered with a Continental Airlines crew member aboard a flight late last year. And this week, a flight attendant filed suit claiming she was assaulted by Victoria Osteen during that flight to Vail, Colo., for the Christmas holidays.

At least some people aboard the Continental Airlines flight were less than pleased after waiting about two hours at Bush Intercontinental Airport while the Osteens left the plane and their luggage was removed, said a woman who witnessed the incident.  “She was just abusive,” said Sheila Steele, who said she was sitting behind Victoria Osteen. “She was just like one of those divas.”

A church spokesman said the couple and their children left the plane voluntarily after the incident Monday and took another flight to Vail, Colo.  Joel Osteen has paid the penalty, which is not an admission of guilt.  But it ended the wife’s drama lesson. 


FRUIT NAMING
By the way names are important and just you should know, the  Osteen Mango is a commercial mango cultivar that originated in Merritt Island, Florida. ... The tree first fruited in 1940 and was named after the well known Osteen family that lived in the Lotus subdivision on South Tropical Trail in Merritt.

 

WHERE’S THE GOD?
In his sermons, Joel Osteen does not mention God. Joel Osteen instead talks about life and it's lessons. I believe he feels when God has something to say, He will say it and do something about it.  It’s just his advice on how to live a happy life that has been thought of by other people first, “Think positively about yourself” and other such nonsense as his competitors on the GOD tithing business trail have said. 

Nonsense? Positive thinking is nonsense? Maybe to any Bible thumping, down in the bushes, hell loving, holy rolling, messengers of the true word!   In other words, the crackpots who have gone too far and would make great Taliban recruits.

Joel Osteen inherited the business from his father. When Joel Osteen became the head pastor of his church, he had barely finished one sermon and he does not have any Bible training. 

It has been widely reported that Osteen attended ORU in Tulsa, Oklahoma, for a two year period without receiving a degree. 

Likewise, it has been reported that he has no higher level training in religious matters or Bible studies. In an appearance on Piers Morgan Tonight in January, 2011, Osteen mentioned that he had never attended a seminary.  Neither did Jesus.

Maybe thats the secret of his success, he didn't do it the same old, same old way.  The way the thumpers teach the other thumpers, and give them degrees in what?  Story telling, threats. parables and impossibles.  Laboring sermons about things that can't be proven.  The boring, lying, cheating way these others operate and hasn’t learned any of the fear tactics his fellow belcher's of brethren intimidation use so copiously.


HIS CRITICS - FROM THE WEB
Unless you have been living on another planet you have no doubt heard of, or even seen America’s smiling pastor Joel Osteen, head of Lakewood Church, one of the largest professing Evangelical Christian congregations in the world. 

What needs to be understood here is that the only way someone like this could even be considered an Evangelical is due to the disturbing low ebb of discernment today in the Body of Christ. 

Here is a man who at best has such an alarming simplistic message concerning Christianity–and at worst is yet another of the many Word Faith teachers currently infesting our Lord’s Church–an alarmingly arrogant breed who are now fearlessly spouting their doctrines of the devil.

 

PROTESTORS ATTACK OSTEEN SERVICE
Six people were arrested Sunday after allegedly interrupting a sermon by Pastor Joel Osteen at Lakewood Church in Houston, Texas.  All of the protesters came from a “revivalist” church in East Texas.  Lakewood Church spokesman told the Houston Chronicle the men came from the Church of Wells in Wells, Texas. “They came out screaming scriptures,” noted the group “goes after churches they don’t agree with.” The Lakewood spokesmen also told the Chronicle the group was in the church about a month ago, causing a disturbance before being asked to leave.  

NATIONAL DECLARATION:  We have heard of them before and labeled them the Church of F•cked up People.

Casey Eaglin, a Lakewood member, was close to the protesters when they started engaging Osteen. “He jumped up with his Bible and started screaming ‘Shame on you Joel, shame on you Joel’ and Joel kind of just repeated Scripture and they just escorted them out,” Eaglin told KHOU. “I was terrified for a quick second there. 

After the first guy, I thought oh it’s just a random heckler, but then you start seeing the second, the third.  ”Several of its volunteer ushers are also law-enforcement who remain armed during services and are ready to react if necessary. 

The six Church of Wells members were charged with criminal trespass, a Class B misdemeanor offense.

The seven of us involved in the effort to warn Lakewood Church of the coming judgment, are all of one mind in regards to the message that each of us were proclaiming that Sunday. 

 Most of the small substance of what has been reported of the phrases that were spoken by us are accurate, but they are by no means the complete burden that flooded our hearts that morning... 

EDITOR:  Their website which I found repulsively fanatically engaged should be condemned under the sanity act for unsuitability, instability and just plain old religious nutcases on the loose is located at...  http://www.thechurchofwells.com

 

OP-ED   RICK HENDERSON
Pastor.  Blogger.  Sacred Skeptic. He is the Draper Campus Pastor for South Mountain Community Church in Utah. Happy husband. Proud father,  admitted horrid golfer, and a coffee addict.  (He can’t be all bad, I’m worse than a horrid golfer and I have a Farberware Percolator, a Cuisinart Drip and a French press, I like my coffee from around the world.)   He’s passionate about loving well, thinking hard and daring others to be sacred skeptics is featured below.

QUOTE:   I have been preaching for 20 years. Yesterday I did something that I have never done before in a sermon. I publicly called out false teachers and named them by name. I said:  If you listen to Joel Osteen or Joyce Meyer, if you take what they teach seriously, it will not be good for you. It will be detrimental to your long-term growth as a follower of Jesus.

Like Joyce Meyer, Joel Osteen has some really great things to say. He is encouraging and the man is certainly happy. This should not be held against him.  The man is confused on theology. His doctrine is difficult to discern for many because he won’t talk about doctrine. He won’t talk about theology. (OK two strikes, money...?)  

While I commend him for his humility and courage to publicly declare that he was wrong, this is just one of too many instances. He frequently misunderstands important matters of faith and doctrine when being interviewed. He repeatedly gets the Gospel wrong. And he does so when talking to millions.  If we take Joel at his word, our only conclusion is that he is either incapable or unwilling to understand and explain how the Gospel intersects with all of life.


THE PROSPERITY GOSPEL IS
 much like all other religions in that it uses faith, it uses doing good things to leverage material blessings from God.   Essentially, for you to use God to get things from God.

Thats not how reality works.   “God has already done everything He’s going to do.  The ball is now in your court. If you want success, if you want wisdom, if you want to be prosperous and healthy, you’re going to have to do more than meditate and believe; you must boldly declare words of faith and victory over yourself and your family” 

•   If you are believing for your child to find God, go help somebody else’s child to develop a relationship with God. 
•   If you’re struggling financially, go out and help somebody who has less than you have ... 
•   If you want to reap financial blessings, you must sow financial seeds in the lives of others
•   If you want to see healing and restoration come to your life, go out and help somebody else get well” 

Joel teaches that we open ourselves to God to get more from God. He teaches that we use our words to speak into existence a better reality, this is straight from the Word of Faith Movement.   This is not what is taught throughout the New Testament. What about the millions of others who are desperate, searching, hoping and vulnerable without the discernment? We owe it to them to not tolerate a false gospel any longer.    


LAKEWOOD AND HURRICANE HARVEY
It’s easy to point out the hypocrisy of some churches, especially a church like Joel Osteen’s Lakewood, which says it has the largest worship center in the United States and welcomes more than 38,000 weekly attendees.  And when reports surface of Osteen's congregation turning away Hurricane Harvey victims in need of food and shelter, it might seem like they deserve that censure.

We may never know the truth behind the day when a few rain-soaked Houstonians came to the doorstep of Lakewood Church. From  reports according to church personnel, it looks like Lakewood staff were justified in sending people to government shelters. But that doesn’t matter anymore. What matters, as is often true, are the optics.   And Lakewood Church has become a PR nightmare.

Photos offer conflicting narratives. On one hand, social media warriors posted photos of clear roads, debunking Lakewood’s claim that the building was “inaccessible due to severe flooding.” But those in the building retaliated, revealing the true “situation of our church,” showing murky water in a parking garage.  So park on the grass.  

If the flooding was real, then it would make sense to send the few evacuees requesting shelter to the much larger George R. Brown Convention Center less than six miles down the road. Flood water is a dangerous threat — often carrying raw sewage, toxic chemicals and diseases — so with more rain on the way, it made sense to direct those in need to a place of real safety.

So yes, perhaps Lakewood was justified in sending evacuees down the road. Perhaps Lakewood did serve as a distribution center and later opened their doors for evacuees. Perhaps they’re undeserving of such social media vitriol.

But when people hear that the third largest church in the US said they couldn’t fit a small group of shelter-seekers in a 16,000-seat arena because their basement was flooded, that doesn’t add up.

 

OP-ED  KIRKLAND AN
Their lead pastor, Joel Osteen, is notorious for spreading what is widely called a “prosperity gospel,”  a watered-down version of Christianity that has an unbalanced emphasis on God’s promises to bless those who follow His commands, rather than personal sacrifice and pursuing holiness.

Osteen’s reportedly $10.5 million mansion and expensive-looking suits contrasts with the biblical directive to eschew wealth and care “for the least of these.” This is a church that proudly displays the cost of the building renovation’s price tag on their main website — $95 million, by the way — declares their head pastor “An Inspiration to Millions,” and just like the other fake Trump, lists his broadcast audience size, all in the same paragraph.

The tragedy is that this also reflects poorly on churches that have responded more hospitably in flinging their doors open to anyone in need of shelter, like the Woodlands Church, Houston’s First Baptist Church and Windsor Village United Methodist Church have reportedly done. Presumably, smaller churches are doing the same without press attention, and at a higher personal cost.

But when the one of the largest churches in the country appears to lack compassion in the spotlight of a global news story, it sends an awful message. Even the Christians in the Houston area that are opening their homes to strangers get a bad rap. 

Lakewood’s sluggish media response should have been replaced with an aggressive campaign to right the “false narrative” that spread rapidly. They needed to be clear and honest about why they were not opening their doors to the first shelter-seekers. In an environment where critics are eager to target Christian hypocrisy, Lakewood should have been ready to deliver a message of sympathy and benevolence.

Lakewood is capable of doing good things — it sheltered 5,000 evacuees during a 2001 storm and has specific ministries where members visit nursing homes, prisons and hospitals. But its widespread castigation also serves as a warning for all churches in the future — when the spotlight falls on your town, what message will you send?

Kirkland An is a Collegiate Network editorial board fellow for USA TODAY.

 

OP-ED:  MY THOUGHTS
After reading and researching, I thought Holy Sh*t!  Real Holy Sh*t.  Joel Osteen may be bigger than life but like all the other prosperity preachers, he is not Jesus and he does love the good life.

Rick does get to the heart of things, but just because someone has found a different path to help others find that inner peace they are really searching for, thats not bad either.  But one has to look at the path they are being told to take. Simply put paths are either good or bad and that is the only selection needed.  The parts of the path will come together by good action, not words.  

If you differ from the path suggested and get physical  and attack others.  Do not tell me this is Gods work.  The route of the actions of the Church of Wells and a few over the top demented souls by contradicting their own beliefs and attacking fellow brethren.   I hope they never show their ass’s in Tampa again.  You are not welcome and warned.  The group that desecrated one of our military deceased at his funeral was met with an anti-large crowd, not happy with the Wells people being there...   They left.  Had the police not protected them, it would have gotten out of hand and very bloody.    

This and other statements by the competition just brings out their opinion, version, mis-understandings and ignorance of the greatest story ever told and thats all there is to it.  Thats the extent of the complaints we searched for, nothing about corruption, stealing, begetting, pedofiling, et al. 

His staunchest complaints came from the competition, the old school Bablifiers and Babelists and hardcore imbeciles like from the Church of WELLS.   We should be living in a world of acceptance and compromise, every stem of religion has it’s fanatical believers.  They give us nothing, they support nothing and cause innumerable death and pain for some.

They can't stand someone who tells stories of life, not Bablifications and smoke blowing.  I thought for a while if I were in the ocean in a lifeboat with others, and a storm was approaching.  All the pastors  and  preachers in the boat were into their speil about being saved, he would stand up and say, lets get rowing, that might work.  That’s called survival of the fittest.  At that point I might pitch some of the others overboard, as useless, lighten the boat and grab an oar. 

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