THE EVANGELICAL VOTE (GOP)



THE EVANGELICAL BASE   -  WHAT WOULD JESUS DO?  HE’D SCREAM!

To get what’s happening to the GOP and, to America, you need to understand the theology of the extreme and misinformed Evangelical heartland. We don’t have a political problem. We have an Evangelical poor thinking at times, like in the voting booth, problem.  Their beliefs, strongly ignoring the importance of the separation of Church and State are the problem.  Their opinions have become political and dangerous.

The Republican Party has fallen into the grip of an Evangelical-led group of religious political Senator and Congressmen fundamentalists who are either true believers, ( I doubt it,  or they would not be taking bribes from the NRA, screwing around behind their wives backs and sexual harassment  of the employees ) or most likely believe in keeping their vote for their personal greed,  or who know how to cater to them for a vote.  ( Basically Scumbag Hypocrites)

IN THE BEGINNING

  • From the mid Twentieth Century forward, Billy Graham, and many other evangelicals convinced a huge swath of America to convert to born-again faith. While the evangelical camp grew the mainline denominations shrank. 
    The fine print of conversion to a hot literal faith included a directive to not to trust facts  (the way those liberals did)  but to look for special information which was visible only to the faithful.  ( Hocus Pocus - Carnival talk for Bullshit )

  • This way of thinking led inadvertently to an us-or-them view, revealing those with whom you disagree to be not just wrong, but lost, or even willfully evil. When politicians operate from this mindset, the agenda is no longer political. It’s a holy war whom we must placate by being saved through a revivalist born-again formula.  This pits the true believer against not just science but any information that comes through non-approved channels.  (Sometimes called brainwashing or propaganda, again bullshit works for me ) 

  • Their theology has trained millions of brains to choose between God and truth. The folks that believe in a literal Bible don’t believe in evolution, they believe in the big bang, don’t believe in global warming, in gay rights or, we now know, even in increasing the debt limit.  These are not theological issues per se but the spirit of sectarian warfare is at the heart of the bitter refusals to be swayed by mere facts.
    Delusional religion has become delusional politics. The evangelical establishment teaches a literal return of Christ to judge — and kill — the unbelievers. This is extreme stuff, and that spirit of retributive extremism has jumped the tracks into our politics. That is why we are where we are. 

  • And it’s a fact that the media, today’s mainline denominations, the more moderate members of both parties and the general population seem to find too embarrassing to address honestly. Certainly we have not heard the last of the group of mostly white right wing evangelicals and expect more self-inflicted chaos.  

  • Sure there are extremes on all sides. But one party is not being dominated by people who believe that Noah loaded dinosaurs onto the ark and that the earth is 6000 years young.   The other party is dominated by leaders ready to destroy the good name, faith and credit of our country out of theological spite, spurred on by false claims that our president isn’t a real American or a Christian against President Obama, which was their hallmark supported by Donald Trumps LIES. 

  • The GOP base. A fanatical religious element is dominating our political life these days. Our Evangelical-led right isn’t interested in policy. They are an apocalyptic cult led by the none-too-bright. And they won’t quit. The answer isn’t dialogue but to marginalize the impact of religious delusion.   Leaders who tell the truth will hear a sigh of relief from their constituents, as will religious leaders who show their congregants another way to approach the mystery of faith besides trying to destroy our government, dismantle our economy, and undermine our sense of decency.  It’s called the separation of Church and State.

  • Lieing, deceit, contradiction, corruption, distortion, distraction, stupidity, egotistic unsafe values, lack of talent, bravado and sheer bullshit are the hallmarks of this administrations leader, and worse, many too many ignorant followers believe in Donald Trump... and call themselves evangelicals, simply put, I prefer fools...

                      If you are not part of the solution , you are part of the problem
                         And if you support these policies, you are the real problem.


TRUMP EVANGELICAL SUPPORTERS ATTEND NATIONAL PRAYER BREAKFAST
The Fuehrer Spoke:   Donald trump has never been known for displays of Christian humility. The first few minutes of his remarks at the National Prayer Breakfast in February were no exception. 

  • He thanked the creator of Celebrity Apprentice
  • Pronouncing Arnold Schwarzenegger a “total disaster,” asked the audience to pray for the show’s ratings. 
  • Trump went on to remind everyone that he is a billionaire, “ Somebody that has had material success and knows tremendous numbers of people with great material success—the most material success.”  Thats me...
  • Later he acknowledged that his mission to stop terrorism “may not be pretty for a little while,” and promised that his administration would confront threats “viciously, if we have to.” 
  • Trump’s signature swagger makes many Christians wince, but it has deterred few white evangelicals.  Eighty-one percent of those who voted last year cast their ballot for him. ( Fools and Hypocrites) 

A fool sometimes is a fool forever, and some movements are like a box of chocolates. 
You will never know what you got, until after the fact, and then can’t do anything about it.


  • At the same time, conservative white evangelicals have a long record of being highly pragmatic, rather than purist, in their libertarianism. Throughout American history, they have been more than happy to use the tools of the federal government to protect their own authority and advance a moral agenda—as they did, for example, during the campaign for Prohibition.

  • This selective libertarianism continues to thrive. Trump’s promises to “drain the swamp” resonate with deeply rooted suspicion of big government, but conservative evangelicals applaud his more intrusive proposals as well.  He drained it all right, but we lost a lot of the good people.  He filled it with septic tanks..

And the tax breaks that the Evangelicals so richly loved
and when they find out what they will lose, things will change,
they forgot to read the small print

  • They better read some more as two things are apparent, the GOP spending and wasting more money on useless projects like walls and parades, and the fact the social Security system is going bankrupt, so keep supporting T-Hump and you will feel a lot different when  both are broke.

  • Social Security and Medicare already face funding challenges. The Social Security Trustees project that the program’s shortfall over the next 75 years is $12.5 trillion in present value. To close that gap, Congress would need to permanently and immediately raise Social Security payroll taxes by 22 percent (2.76 percentage points), permanently and immediately reduce benefits by 17 percent, or some equivalent combination of the two, according to the Trustees. If Congress preserves promised benefits for current Social Security recipients, then benefits for future beneficiaries must be cut even further, by 20 percent.

  • Benefit reductions could devastate many Americans who rely on Social Security and Medicare. Social Security benefits are often modest. Retiree benefits average about $1,300 per month, or about $16,000 annually. Under current Medicare rules, older adults’ out-of-pocket cost shares for health care are already slated to rise in coming decades. The Census Bureau estimates that about 14 percent of adults ages 65 and older are impoverished, based on the Supplemental Poverty Measure, which accounts for health care costs.

  • Cosponsors of the House bill have made their intentions toward Social Security clear. House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) would shrink Social Security’s long-range funding gap primarily by reducing scheduled benefits. His Roadmap for America's Future Act of 2010 would sharply curb the growth of Social Security benefits for future workers and increase the full retirement ages to track increases in life expectancy. It would also add carve-out personal accounts to the program. At a Virginia town hall last week, he again called for entitlement reductions.

  • Representative Sam Johnson (R-TX) has introduced the Social Security Reform Act of 2016 that would reduce Social Security replacement rates for all but the lowest-income workers, increase retirement ages, and reduce the cost-of-living adjustment (COLA), along with other changes. During debate over the Senate version of the TCJA, legislators voted down a Democratic amendment to exempt Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid from cuts if revenues fall short of current law projections because of the tax cuts.

  • Im wondering how that underpaid secretary will spend the extra $1.50  ( thats a dollar -fifty for you foolish believers)  each week in solving her financial problems but the KOCH brothers are netting a million a day.  Paul Ryan is not what he appears and he loves telling the story of the biggest lie ever told in Congress.  The tax break was for the corporations and the rich neither of whom will be helping you when that Dr. Bill comes in.

                                                                 OTHER LIES

  • Trump’s threats to curb free trade and punish journalists may make real libertarians apoplectic.  And his initial executive order restricting immigration from seven majority-Muslim countries outraged some prominent evangelical organizations and leaders who lamented the order’s unbiblical abandonment of refugees. 

  • But other influential evangelicals, such as Billy Graham’s son Franklin, support Trump’s policy. The president’s isolationist approach plays well among Americans who believe that the time has come to restore the capitalist order as God intended it to be: with native-born white Americans on top.

  • In any case, ideology is not the sole bond between conservative evangelicals and Donald Trump. His dictator-lite charisma is essential to his appeal.  Hitler, Duarte, Tojo and Stalin had that same appeal.  To the majority of Americans—those who did not vote for him—Trump has all the allure of the boorish boss who takes too many liberties at the staff Christmas party.  But they do nothing about it.  Add “subjects” to the “fools" ID.

  • But his authoritarian machismo is right in step with a long evangelical tradition of pastor-overlords who anoint themselves with the power to make their own rules—and, in the event of their own occasional moral lapses,  assure their followers that God always forgives...  Just remember the LAW doesn’t  forgive and forget. 

  • He calls it the base... part of that term reflects the s mentioned, also known by other titles, namely as  on several sites as
     •  Jesus Freaks  •   Nominal Nutcases  •  Wandering Hews, •   F
    undumb-mentalists  • †he Pious and Pompous

I have nothing but compassion for you the base, you not only will hurt yourself,
you will send hurt on the rest of America, eventually your kids,  and even the
world who also does not 
believe in Donald T-RUMP Trump. 


ARE YOU BEING HYPOCRITICAL TO YOUR BELIEF  -  FALSE GODS

•  I ask you with all sincerity... Do you really believe in his the lies and misstatements. If you do you believe in the false thinking of Church and State which you do not understand. This is a country of many beliefs and religions.  Jesus understood that, why are you so naive.  Read the constitution, there is a separation of the Church and the State.  Believe in your Jesus,  but believe in that separation, then you will wake up.

•  The twitter assignations media allowing and promoting lies, defamation of individuals unfitting a President and conspiracies without true verification indicate only one thing if you believe them and don’t condone them.  It is a strong acceptance of stupidity, naiveness and compliance.  Same thing the fellows who started WWII believed in.  You have enveloped a false GOD.  

•   How can an Evangelical believing in the good deeds and tasks, the blessed life of living it on the goodness of Gods Grace can support a defiler, liar, cheat, hate monger, and womanizer, with thirty women coming forth, his profane and narcissistic attitude and vulgarity. How do you as an Evangelical support that?

•  How do you support Trump denying Russia is winning, thats the bottom line many are too stupid to realize, everything they want is theirs as long as the Russians keep fueling the fire.  

•  If you can’t handle truth and still are a believer after the facts, you need help.  The entire world is not wrong. I hope you find it before the country really goes further down the toilet.  You believe in false Gods...and that proves 

 •  Its bad enough you voted wrong, but not admitting a mistake is then worse.  The Sioux Indians had a saying, “Which is worse, the liar or the one who tells his lies”.  You are because you follow the liar and hater, no better than him.  In the case of the President, he is both, he lies and then denies it the next day with a follow-up lie and calls it fake news, since he is the one who spread the news fake, can we not argue that he is the source of the lies?  

•   If you do not see that, then and I don’t like picking on people, you showing ignorance, naiveness or just plain religiously brain-washed tendencies.  

•  The street sweeper, AKA VP Mike Pence, praising Trump because he knows those that see Trump for what he is, will either rise to the presidency by assassination or impeachment.  Thats how he gets a seat in the Oval Office.  He and others use divinity as they're calling card.  Some wear it on their sleeve but he has it tattooed on his forehead, and others invoking GOD more than the other TV preachers.   He too is a believer in a false God...

The Sioux were right, the teller of false tales is as bad or worse than the liar who said it.

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